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no damage tank · Aug 28, 2006, 08:50 AM // 08:50

look, a 55 monk works right? a 55 necro works right? and this is the same except a bit more dmg u idiot

and ITV is english, but its still true wat jeremy kyle says.

silverwyng · Aug 28, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

it might be good in theory [if a monk can 55, if a necro can 55, then a sin SHOULD be able to 55], but since you yourself cannot prove or even built the 55 sin, then we don't know for sure.

and no damage tank, no need to call people idiots or dickheads. people make mistakes, be it skipping parts of your posts or correct spelling. please refrain from doing that. i know i'm not a mod but i do believe we can all have a nice and CIVIL discussion here.

Yanman.be · Aug 28, 2006, 09:02 AM // 09:02

Why am I the idiot? You post a build, then got no proof to back it up. More damage? Don't think so.

Guitary Boy · Aug 28, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Can i just take this opportunity for people to read whole posts (yes you too no damage tank

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Why am I the idiot? You post a build, then got no proof to back it up. More damage? Don't think so.

Sums it up really.
In an earlier post no damage tank, you stated a monk would be better than an ss because an spiteful spirit necro can only cast ss and it cant cast essence bond and balthazars spirit on you, so basicly you are taking a monk that is just going to sit there getting energy and adrenaline

(your an idiot if you think your the one getting it because the energy is directed to the enchantment mainainer, and you obviously think this as you actually said it yourself)

And maybe cast Shield of judgement and zealots on you, taking years to kill due to knock down and running away from aoe, and it is possible to get stripped (unless you got your uber pwnage 3 second sb or shadow form)
Math lesson: Assuming your tanking 4 aataxes,
Soj, 216 damage every 3 seconds. Assuming you have 16 smite and curses.
Echoed ss, 294 damage every 1.33 seconds thats about 3 times faster.
But lets put it to prospective, chances are you wont even have a monk willing to come with you. But if they do SoJ will generally slow your run down a hell of a lot, so lets assume they will be keeping you alive, not slowing your run down. (also getting all the energy from the rather pointless balthazars spirit and essence bond that you think your getting energy from)
You will be sitting there spamming your 2 skills (the degen from poison will only neutralize aataxes natural regen) that recharge every 20 seconds, one skill of which is just a counter regen spell, no damage. With your stated 12 shadow arts your going to be doing a whoping 41 damage every 20 seconds (unless your using zealots, but that will slow things down even more because you'll lose aggro)
So, 41 damage every 20 seconds its going to take 5-6 minutes assuming you wont get interrupted once (because sv on ss necros is so noob) per one aataxe, when you could spend 20 seconds with an ss necro to take down a whole group... So much for more damage. Stop calling people dick heads and telling them to read you whole post, why dont you read my whole previous post rather than the first paragraph and having a strop.

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Originally Posted by no damage tank

well... if he read it first then he wouldnt of made an idiot out of urself. now if u wanna have an argument ur looking at the #1 in arguments!! i sed wat needed to be sed, if u dont get idiots into line then they will go on being an idiot. i think thats the case WITH u

If your so good at geting "idiots" into line (because flaming and offensive language is ftw) how come you are an idiot your self, i mean who the hell announces that they are #1 at arguements and you've come to the right place to argue with some one, for when some one comments on it you get in a great big strop. Also what gives you the right to put people back in line, if any one needs putting back in line its yourself.

no damage tank · Aug 29, 2006, 07:24 AM // 07:24

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

More damage? Don't think so.

wats the iron palm and entangling asp for then? fancy looks? to do a dance? thats where the more damage comes from. and thats why YOUR an idiot

Guitary boy, you really ARE making an idiot out of urself, essence bond gives energy to the caster, balthazars spirit gives energy to the enchanted person. i will now quote from guildwarsguru

Essence bond:

"While you maintain this "Enchantment", whenever target ally takes physical damage, you gain 1 energy."

Balthazars Spirit:

"While you maintain this "Enchantment", target ally gains adrenaline and Energy after taking damage. (The amount of adrenaline gained increases depending on your rank in Smiting Prayers.)"

please note the target ally part.

Yanman.be · Aug 29, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15

More damage? Still don't think so.

SS will still do more damage, than a single zealot's fire, iron palm, entangling asp. We're talking level 29's here. Bye bye unignored damage! You haven't tested it yourself, so there is NO WAY of proving it will do more damage than SoJ or SS.

Blind Rage · Aug 29, 2006, 09:14 AM // 09:14

the thing i dont like about this build.... I dont think the creator knows what he is talking about, nor has tested this build, please please screenshots or a video before anyone will take you seriously

no damage tank · Aug 29, 2006, 09:38 AM // 09:38

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

More damage? Still don't think so.

SS will still do more damage, than a single zealot's fire, iron palm, entangling asp. We're talking level 29's here. Bye bye unignored damage! You haven't tested it yourself, so there is NO WAY of proving it will do more damage than SoJ or SS.

u are such an idiot!! im not talking just about UW, im saying that for the anywhere build, it does more dmg than a 55 monk, cos its got deadly arts, zealots and SoJ, rather than zealots and SoJ. get with the program

no damage tank · Aug 29, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by Blind Rage

the thing i dont like about this build.... I dont think the creator knows what he is talking about, nor has tested this build, please please screenshots or a video before anyone will take you seriously

know wat im talking about? dude i know the 55 skills, know how it works, i think u should undersand and follow tip number 3

no damage tank · Aug 29, 2006, 09:42 AM // 09:42

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Originally Posted by Guitary Boy

chances are you wont even have a monk willing to come with you

lol!!! dont u kno my m8 has a 55 monk? and he has an SS, he would happily go while my other m8 is off. so i suggest u ask how easy it is b4 u moan at others!!

Yanman.be · Aug 29, 2006, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by no damage tank

u are such an idiot!! im not talking just about UW, im saying that for the anywhere build, it does more dmg than a 55 monk, cos its got deadly arts, zealots and SoJ, rather than zealots and SoJ. get with the program

I don't see how lower attributes can do more damage...Also, those deadly arts skill are vs 1 player only..if you're gonna kill'm 1 by 1 , gee gee energy if you're on fighting your last few guys.

*edit* I think the OP tries to make us as mad as possible, try out the build to prove it won't work, and then see if it does work( it won't ) so he doesn't waste his money on it.

crow120 · Aug 29, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

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Originally Posted by Blind Rage

the thing i dont like about this build.... I dont think the creator knows what he is talking about, nor has tested this build, please please screenshots or a video before anyone will take you seriously

I'm with you Blind Rage. I was looking forward to this build but normally (basing this on other build topics here) the OP tries it goes "Oh, hey this works" and shares it with the community. I might give this a go round for S&G's later on today.

narud · Aug 29, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

you cant use dags, they are two handed, unless you find a -50hp dagger, you can only get 105 hp.

Youre trying to use assasins major damage to make up for smite monks damage. Without a combo assasins damage isnt enough, i use normal 55 skills and shadow form and do uw with guildie ss all the time.

If youre running into energy problems then revise your build. I farm a lot of stuff with a 55 sin and never have energy problems, once i get down to one or two guys, mending keeps me alive, all i need is PS.

no damage tank · Aug 29, 2006, 03:27 PM // 15:27

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Originally Posted by narud

you cant use dags, they are two handed, unless you find a -50hp dagger, you can only get 105 hp.

Youre trying to use assasins major damage to make up for smite monks damage. Without a combo assasins damage isnt enough, i use normal 55 skills and shadow form and do uw with guildie ss all the time.

If youre running into energy problems then revise your build. I farm a lot of stuff with a 55 sin and never have energy problems, once i get down to one or two guys, mending keeps me alive, all i need is PS.

sure, u may run into energy probs on aatxes, but with the smites u wont

no damage tank · Aug 29, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

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Originally Posted by narud

you cant use dags, they are two handed, unless you find a -50hp dagger, you can only get 105 hp.

Youre trying to use assasins major damage to make up for smite monks damage. Without a combo assasins damage isnt enough, i use normal 55 skills and shadow form and do uw with guildie ss all the time.

If youre running into energy problems then revise your build. I farm a lot of stuff with a 55 sin and never have energy problems, once i get down to one or two guys, mending keeps me alive, all i need is PS.

sure, u may run into energy probs on aatxes, but with the smites u wont

but ty, someone here has just shown that 55 sins can work, can u do a few screenshots of droks trolls (using SoJ) or if not a video, that way they WILL have proof

anyway ty for a good comment (for once)

crow120 · Aug 29, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

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Originally Posted by no damage tank

but ty, someone here has just shown that 55 sins can work, can u do a few screenshots of droks trolls (using SoJ) or if not a video, that way they WILL have proof

anyway ty for a good comment (for once)

I don't think it was ever a matter of whither or not 55 'sins worked. It was a matter of you being the one who posted this build and not backing it up with screenshots or video. You said yourself you hadn't tried it. Then when people asked you for proof you called them idiots and dickheads for asking questions. One other minor thing you might consider is putting all your thoughts into one reply rather than double and triple posting.

no damage tank · Aug 30, 2006, 06:11 AM // 06:11

asking questions? yeah, dumb questions that i already put into my post, that is y they are idiots.

no damage tank · Aug 30, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

and can we just finally get this post back to not flaming, i will stop flaming if u ask questions i havnt already answered.

Yanman.be · Aug 30, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26

I have a question sir! When will you post screenshots? Or prove that you do more damage Q.Q

Blind Rage · Aug 30, 2006, 09:32 AM // 09:32

okay... for the second time, we want proof, go take you assassin to droknars forge, run the EXACT build you listed (right attributes,skills etc), Take a screenshot of your attributes and skill bar and the entire starting portion of the troll cave dead at your feet (how a 55 monk would do it). or a video, and i will give you 20k, until you can do that no one will believe you.